Thank you to those who provided feedback on FSRA’s Take-All-Comers Consultation. This consultation is now closed, and all comments and submissions have been posted.
FSRA is committed to strengthening consumer protection related to auto insurance by ensuring availability, enforcing regulatory oversight and reducing regulatory burden. The Take-All-Comers Consultation received comments and submissions from consumers and members of the auto insurance industry, including brokers, insurance companies and trade associations, who brought forth valuable insight about current practices and recommendations to further protect Ontario’s auto insurance consumers.
FSRA’s administration of the regulatory regime includes the Take-All-Comers requirements, which was created to ensure that consumers have access to insurance by establishing certain “rules” that must be followed:
- Insurers must offer a quote to all auto insurance consumers that meet their approved underwriting rules.
- When consumers shop for auto insurance, insurers are required to offer the lowest rate available for each consumer’s circumstances.
- Before an insurance policy expires, insurers are required to offer their customer a renewal if that customer continues to meet that insurer’s underwriting rules.
What FSRA heard:
FSRA heard from 25 brokers, five insurers, two industry groups, nine consumers, and one other stakeholder. Many brokers stated in their submissions that the existing process used by insurers for providing quotes and approving applications is often cumbersome, frustrating, and/or unfair. Examples of such practices include mandating unnecessary paperwork or using delay tactics in providing quotes or approving applications with the intent of discouraging or even in some cases making it practically impossible for customers from doing business with that insurer. Comments from consumers generally expressed frustration over rates and availability of coverage, and the lack of transparency around rates. Insurers and industry groups submitted comments regarding their processes around Take-All-Comers requirements, and a number of commentors made extensive recommendations addressing the regulatory framework for rate approval and Take-All-Comers.
The following instances of contraventions to the Take-All-Comers requirements have been noted in the submissions from brokers:
- Withdrawing underwriting authority of brokers and agents
- Failing to respond to requests for quotes from qualifying customers in a timely manner
- Refusing to quote or renew for reasons not listed in the insurer’s approved underwriting rules
- Failing to offer a renewal to qualifying customers including those who have missed a single payment
- Requiring the completion of written applications from customers on a frequent basis and for reasons that cannot be characterized as exceptional and warranted by the risk presented
The following general themes were also identified under this consultation:
- Lack of insurer regulatory oversight, monitoring/enforcement, or accountability
- Ineffective and unnecessary regulation
- Required legislative and regulatory changes, including amendments to Ontario Regulation 7/00 - Unfair Deceptive Acts or Practices (UDAP)
- Support for Treating Customers Fairly framework rather than the current Take-All-Comers requirements
Next steps:
FSRA is currently conducting a review of the Take-All-Comers requirements and has partnered with the Registered Insurance Brokers of Ontario to explore issues with the way customers are treated. As part of the review, FSRA will be undertaking examinations of selected insurers chosen to ensure a representative sample of Ontario’s auto insurance market.
FSRA will review opportunities to address the concerns raised to ensure customers are treated fairly and access to affordable insurance is not impaired by misconduct in the auto insurance marketplace.
Disclaimer: After a full review of the submissions to the Take-All-Comers consultation, all names, company names and sensitive information from the original comments and questions have been removed.
All submissions
No. |
Company |
Individual |
Comment |
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1 |
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Broker |
Hello, When I opened up the brokerage, I had contract from 5 insurance company and insurance company was one of them. 4 MONTHS after I got my contract with insurance company, they advised us not to send them business as they are currently doing some restructuring so in few months I had contract with them. Insurance company decided to cancel my contract for no apparent reason. When I questioned them, what was the reason, they didn't have any answers. This behavior to me seems like bully behavior, I had to move all our clients to another carrier and if someone had at fault accident and had forgiveness factor on it, we couldn't really help them. I REALLY WANT THE REGULATORS TO LOOK INTO THIS AND STOP THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR FROM INSURANCE COMPANY. |
2 |
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Broker |
The system is broken and nobody wins. This is where we are at currently. |
3 |
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Broker |
In my opinion the majority of the insurance providers in Ontario and not applying the take all rules. |
4 |
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Prefer not to say |
Auto insurance companies such as insurance company, insurance company etc are flagrantly avoiding the all comers rule by placing huge restrictions on their brokers by modifying binding authority and work flows in order to avoid taking customer they don't want that will actually fit their filed rules. They are implementing procedures where certain people need to be review before being allowed to bind that don't fit what they want. Things such as non-payments, AB claims, Risks under a certain driving record or monoline customers are being forced to sign applications and submit for renewal BEFORE the company agrees to bind even though the risk fits their filed rules and the companies are taking 10 to 15 days to respond in hopes the customer will get frustrated and leave |
5 |
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Broker |
I think some clarification is needed for the question for consumers that asks: "•Did it take a long time to get a quote or did you never receive a quote after requesting one? " |
6 |
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Auto insurance is mandatory in Ontario, and companies are very concerned about fraud. However, it is my belief that, in part, they are perpetuating the fraud issue by making auto insurance financially crippling. In the same vein, by offering such high limits, of course claims will increase in cost for the accident benefits because why shouldn't they?! It is unfortunate that in the society we are living in, people will take advantage of what is offered, whether it is necessary or not. And those of us who are not crap human begins have to pay to replenish the pot we will likely never use. Good drivers with clean records for several decades be penalized because of the current market. Experience means better rates, but the cost to get experience is the same price as buying the car in the first place. |
7 |
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Broker |
Hi |
8 |
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Broker |
The quote meets the Companies qualifications - underwriting rules - then Insurance Companies should not be able to say to us Brokers "please place this insured elsewhere, it's not a target market for us" ...but, the quote qualifies, so what's the problem - the quote complies with their underwriting rules.. Why are they allow to do that? the answer is - because they can...... |
9 |
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Broker |
I do not believe that insurers should ask for signed Applications to be submitted before we even know if they will accept the risk. Perhaps an unsigned Application with an appropriate turnaround time from the insurer with a yes or no, so the broker can move on and advise the consumer. A few of the companies are/were making it as difficult as possible for brokers to place business with them. I do feel that these barriers put in place by insurers are loosening up a wee bit. |
10 |
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Broker |
We are a business that has been researching about in house underwriting for quite some time, with the struggle of how do you avoid bad risks but also offer them the quote within regulations. We are still having a hard time finding what that looks like, and when I do ask fellow industry members, or go on webinars, etc. It seems the common answer they are using is "we can't help you with this quote" or they actually refer them to a competing brokerage. We are always offering our best market for the client right now, but as a brokerage who has loss ratios to protect as well, have a hard time finding that communication and honestly feel it is a little unfair that some of these big successful brokerages are refusing to quote some clients. |
11 |
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Broker |
Hello |
12 |
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Broker |
I think a few insurers are setting up additional rules to refuse less desirable clients for quotes & binding for some time already. They are violators. FSRA should let insurers to set up its own price. Insurers should be more closely supervised to abide the rules & be penalized for violating the rules. The government should not take a blind eye for such violations just because they are big corporations. |
13 |
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Broker |
No one will tell the truth unless we have complete anonymity. Frankly, the fact you do not have this in mind already tells me how ridiculous this exercise actually is. Fraud investigation of the fraud. |
14 |
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Broker |
Awe at Brokerage treat all callers for Auto or property quotes with respect andd professional service regardless who is the caller.We ask same necessary ubdetwritobg questions and treat all caller in same and equal manner and approach.We have never experienced any situation from any of our insurers refusing to insure or quote a new comers.Neither any of our markets delayed or refused to insure any applicant who qualifies for insurance and meet acceptable underwriting rules or criteria..All are treated equally ni exclusions. |
15 |
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Broker |
I 100% agree with All comers rule. Insurance companies are more often using their filed rules to avoid taking a new piece of business or offering renewal. They do what they have to do, but insurer is filled with rules so numerous and complex, quoting them takes a significant amount of time. The insurer refuse to help or guide brokers along to try and get a close to accurate quote. There are not enough quotes for any staff member to become an expert with all those rules and the remuneration for all the time it takes is very low. So as insurers tighten their belt, I feel the insurer must total refurbish how they do business. |
16 |
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Broker |
When markets put restrictions on what we can write that are not filed rules. Having unrealistic guidelines for example no losses of any kind in 10 years, must write home insurance with auto same day and the list goes on. We understand that companies need to be profitable but having such restrictions make it hard to be helpful to clients. Markets threaten to pull contracts if brokers don't follow the "unwritten" rules for auto. |
17 |
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Broker |
I was recently appalled by the online social media actions of a insurer where they trolled their comments on their Facebook page and apologized to those who complained that they were sent an application instead of being quoted and were then sent the app back to say it wasn't filled out to the company standards and had therefore been rejected. To some this process happened a number of times before they abandoned their efforts. This sounded VERY frustrating. The company rep would apologize that they had that experience!!!! They would then state some nonsense that their goal is client satisfaction and ask that they message them off the public site for some promise of help. This is absolutely disgusting. The entire purpose of the application being mailed out process they use, is to frustrate the consumer, and provide them with EXACTLY this experience . There used to be a day where we wouldn't allow insurers to intentionally mislead the public. The provincial regulator should have teeth. They should not only have the ability to apply penalties to those who run afoul of the rules but also to penalize those that have avoided the intent of the rules by finding loopholes in the legislation. If you don't do that it will be a perpetual cat and mouse game. |
18 |
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Broker |
The new filed rules with respect to "vehicle values" and "ages of vehicles" are making it increasingly difficult to places Coverage. Restricting physical damage or increasing Deductibles is logical but companies refusing to insure vehicles over 100K is proving very challenging. I recently struggled to place coverage for a LEXUS!!!!! NOT a Bugati, a Lexus due to a COMP rate group. Risks that should not be with FAC are ending up placed there due to no other avenue even when it is not logical. Hoping the climate improves soon! |
19 |
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Broker |
Anyone reading back issues of Canadian Underwriter will understand my position on auto insurance in Ontario. In a few words - it doesn't work, and has failed to since the early '70's. My reason - you can't underwrite the brain of a motorist. That's as uncomplicated as I can make it. Your MVR's and AutoPluses will give you a story that is about as germane to establishing if an applicant is a good risk as wondering how long paint on a house will last. But why, since the '70's? Because up until then, there was an innocence in life generally and in insurance specifically. I know, I grew up in the business with them. I started with an insurer in 1952 (think 7 years after the end of WWII) as a reader of mail and the procurer of new dollars in the mail machine from the post office. Going into Auto, it didn't take long to realize that the main concern at the time was whether you were giving 5/10 and 1 or 10/20 and 5 for liability limits. If there were injuries from an accident, you heard very little of it except for whatever $1,000 of medical payments would buy (mostly first aid) which gave truth to the practice that the bandages were removed, the crutches discarded and you got on with your life. |
20 |
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Broker |
I have another comment to make. My earlier opinion aside, I believe what could make the delivery of auto insurance a more palatable occurrence is time, time the broker spends in determining the aspects of the risk beyond the usual fundamentals. In most cases of acquiring information, the applicant never sees the desk of the broker. From that standpoint alone, all underwriting can use is the basic trilogy; application, MVR, AutoPlus, and must conclude via coded formulation acceptance or declination. Whether a building or a 2018 Chevvy, principles of contract apply. But because auto insurance has become as routine as ordering a coffee at Tims, the elements that should be used for contracting an auto policy slip by. Auto or otherwise, the client should be in the broker's office. The opportunity now exits for eliciting information as adjunct to what is commonly expected and could boost the underwriting values of the risk. Personal observation forms essential levels of sincerity, factuality and fidelity, as in honor and probity. Now we can say in the remarks section of the application that we have gained witness to the character of the applicant and we can unreservedly offer our recommendation as to the viability of the client, despite the conviction for speeding 3 years ago and a minor accident approaching 6 years. That is the idealist's way of pre-underwriting 30 years ago but, unfortunately, not today. Now, it's strictly information given online for the formulation of a legal contract that is less about the applicant and more of numbers, dates and terms. And in another sense, one has to question the legality of offer and acceptance creating a contract between the insurer and the purchaser on information that is essentially computer generated. |
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Broker |
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22 |
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Broker |
To Whom It May Concern, I'm writing this anonymously because I do not want my real name to be on record. However, I have been a RIBO licensed insurance broker. The status of accessibility to auto insurance in Ontario has gradually worsen every year since I've entered this field; in writing this, I wish to provide feedback to the current state of affairs and highlight some of the practices that brokerages and insurance companies are employing to maneuver around the Take All Comers Rule. |
23 |
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Broker |
Curious as to why the FSRA is asking these types of questions, when for the past 5 quarters, it has allowed car insurance premiums to rise on average 3-4% every quarter. Should it, instead, be asking how best to apply insurance increases, to who and when? |
24 |
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Consumer |
I read the article about unfair rules to auto insurance and think something needs to be done about it. |
25 |
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Consumer |
To answer your questions |
26 |
|
Consumer |
I just can't believe how insurance company (s) continue to gauge customer who have/has a no claims/accidents of automobile coverage. |
27 |
|
Broker |
Insurance company seems to be not wanting to renew policies that should be renewed. |
28 |
|
Consumer |
this industry is so poorly regulated the governments refusal finding insurance should not be this difficult. |
29 |
|
Broker |
1) What reporting and oversight mechanisms are in place to support compliance with the Take-All-Comers rule? |
30 |
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Consumer |
The auto insurance sector requires significant reform, particularly as it pertains to dispute resolution and the independent examination (insurer examination) process. As highlighted by FAIR and other organizations, the system is broken and does not serve the interest of injured Ontarians. The current system leads to costly delays and litigation, delayed treatment for those who have sustained injuries, "dumping" of injured persons onto the OHIP system after limited insurance benefits have expired, and unnecessary disputes stemming from the insurer examination process. All of this does not serve the interest of the two stakeholder groups for which government policy should be directed, namely ratepayers and those legitimately injured as a result of automobile accidents in Ontario. I have attached several documents which highlight the current problems with the dispute resolution system and insurer examinations. The solution will require a rostering of qualified health care professionals with expertise and training in independent examinations, with an emphasis on professional peer review assessments. |
31 |
Desjardins General Insurance Group |
Christian Jobidon |
Please find attached the comments from Desjardins General Insurance Group to FSRA's Take All Comers rule consultation. Please feel free to contact us if you should have further questions. Thank you. |
32 |
The Wawanesa Mutual Insurance Company |
James Bond |
Attached is the Wawanesa submission responding to questions posed to licensed entities concerning FSRA's consultation on the Take All Comers Rule. |
33 |
Aviva Canada |
Erica Kelsey |
Please see attached submission - thank you. |
34 |
Canadian Association of Direct Relationship Insurers |
Catherine Allman |
Please find attached CADRI's response to FSRA's call for comments on the Take-All-Comers Rule. |
35 |
Insurance Bureau of Canada |
Ryan Stein |
Good morning, |
36 |
AllState |
Angie Morris |
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37 |
Intact Insurance Company |
Julie Nolette |
No. |
Company |
Individual |
Question |
FSRA Response |
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1 |
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Consumer |
Where can i find a list of all "Take All Corners" rules? |
Take-All-Comers refers to three main requirements under the Insurance Act:
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2 |
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Broker |
Not sure but I though I would mention, we have a couple of insurance companies that require an undated, signed application to be submitted for their approval of binding, in some instances this can take 3-6 weeks before the insurance companies let us know if we are able to bind coverage. For some insurer referrals required documentation includes: Fully completed and signed CSIO application, Supporting MVR's & Autoplus (ordered through your brokerage account, not Insurer's account) All endorsements that require a signature must be signed and attached. Once they review the application and documentation, they'll advise of approval to bind policy. |
Thank you for your input. The issues you have raised in your comments are related to the Take-All-Comers Requirements. |
3 |
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Consumer |
Is there a means to address current auto insurance issues by insurance professionals, to any standing committee of FSRA ? This issue is of extreme importance that brings in many facets of the auto insurance process and policy, and simply writing comments does not give it any room for serious credibility. XXX-XXX-XXXX |
The Financial Services Regulatory Authority of Ontario (FSRA) has established a Consumer Advisory Panel. More information is available at: https://www.fsrao.ca/consumers/consumer-advisory-panel/summary-comments-proposed-terms-reference-new-fsra-consumer-advisory-panel |
4 |
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Consumer |
I can not get a quote for vehicle insurance. I have had a license and paid insurance for over 20 yrs. I have 1 violation on my on my abstract from 2.6 yrs ago. The violation is now considered a major as it wasn't back then. It comes off my license in sept. Also got cancelled this last mth from Insurance Company for missed payment but my payments were only late, not missed and a third thing is a claim from over 6yrs ago. I have zero demerits. Why can I not get insured? |
Based on your risk characteristics , you may not qualify as a result of an insurer's approved Underwriting Rules. As there is a requirement for automobile insurance in the Province, there is an association known as the Facility Association, for policyholders that are unable to obtain insurance in the regular or standard marketplace. However, you are encouraged to continue to shop around. |
5 |
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Consumer |
Should insurance companies be allowed to block brokers from obtaining quotes for clients that clearly fall within their filed rules, and request a paper application be submitted for a quote and binding approval? |
Thank you for your input. When consumers shop for auto insurance, insurers are required to offer the lowest rate available for each consumer’s circumstances. Before an insurance policy expires, insurers are required to offer their customer a renewal if that customer continues to meet that insurer’s eligibility rules. Insurers must accept all of the auto insurance business from consumers that meet their approved underwriting rules. This is a part of “Take-All-Comers Requirements” under the Insurance Act. |